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		<title>By: Samuels</title>
		<link>http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/4548/comment-page-1#comment-280055</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve gotta hand it to Gov. Blunt for being firm on this issue.  The Obama thug squads clearly crossed the line by enlisting sheriffs and prosecutors to push their political agenda, and I think made a strong point that their point about &quot;alleged violation&quot; is extremely cloudy and ambiguous.

Check out Blunt&#039;s interview on Fox News if you haven&#039;t seen it already -- http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/29/report-on-obamas-truth-squad-thugs/#comment-813073</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve gotta hand it to Gov. Blunt for being firm on this issue.  The Obama thug squads clearly crossed the line by enlisting sheriffs and prosecutors to push their political agenda, and I think made a strong point that their point about &#8220;alleged violation&#8221; is extremely cloudy and ambiguous.</p>
<p>Check out Blunt&#8217;s interview on Fox News if you haven&#8217;t seen it already &#8212; <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/29/report-on-obamas-truth-squad-thugs/#comment-813073" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/29/report-on-obamas-truth-squad-thugs/#comment-813073</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/4548/comment-page-1#comment-280041</link>
		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reporter is QUOTING the prosecutors.&quot;

He may be or he may not be, Joel.  There&#039;s no way to know unless we see the transcripts of the interviews.  There&#039;s NO record that this is actually what they said.    

&quot;Sarah Palin says she is in favor of teaching creationism in schools.&quot;

Would you call that a quote?

&quot;Because their jobs and public standing are on the line now they have every reason in the book to try and make their comments looks as non threatening after the fact as possible.&quot;

The only comments I&#039;ve seen or heard from them mimic almost word for word what members of the McCain and Palin Truth Squads have been quoted as saying.

And what happened to &quot;targeting&quot;?  I thought they were targeting people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reporter is QUOTING the prosecutors.&#8221;</p>
<p>He may be or he may not be, Joel.  There&#8217;s no way to know unless we see the transcripts of the interviews.  There&#8217;s NO record that this is actually what they said.    </p>
<p>&#8220;Sarah Palin says she is in favor of teaching creationism in schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you call that a quote?</p>
<p>&#8220;Because their jobs and public standing are on the line now they have every reason in the book to try and make their comments looks as non threatening after the fact as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only comments I&#8217;ve seen or heard from them mimic almost word for word what members of the McCain and Palin Truth Squads have been quoted as saying.</p>
<p>And what happened to &#8220;targeting&#8221;?  I thought they were targeting people.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grover,

Nice try but no,

The Prosecutors in none of these subsequent stories say that they were MISQUOTED by the reporter.  They claim that their remarks have been misrepresented, not by the reporter mind you, but by their critics. those are two entirely different things.

The reporter said that the story had been &quot;twisted out of context&quot; but gave no specifics about what that meant.  He did not say that he misquoted or misattributed what the prosecutors said. 

As I have pointed out several times before above, the reporter specifically states that the prosectors &quot;say that they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate violate Missouri ethics laws.â€ The reporter is QUOTING the prosecutors.

Also as I have said before, these prosecutors are seriously backpedaling NOW because of the public outrage that resulted from the story in which they were quoted.  Because their jobs and public standing are on the line now they have every reason in the book to try and make their comments looks as non threatening after the fact as possible.

Again this is all easy to both see and understand.  These prosecutors are getting spanked and are NOW running for cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grover,</p>
<p>Nice try but no,</p>
<p>The Prosecutors in none of these subsequent stories say that they were MISQUOTED by the reporter.  They claim that their remarks have been misrepresented, not by the reporter mind you, but by their critics. those are two entirely different things.</p>
<p>The reporter said that the story had been &#8220;twisted out of context&#8221; but gave no specifics about what that meant.  He did not say that he misquoted or misattributed what the prosecutors said. </p>
<p>As I have pointed out several times before above, the reporter specifically states that the prosectors &#8220;say that they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate violate Missouri ethics laws.â€ The reporter is QUOTING the prosecutors.</p>
<p>Also as I have said before, these prosecutors are seriously backpedaling NOW because of the public outrage that resulted from the story in which they were quoted.  Because their jobs and public standing are on the line now they have every reason in the book to try and make their comments looks as non threatening after the fact as possible.</p>
<p>Again this is all easy to both see and understand.  These prosecutors are getting spanked and are NOW running for cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/4548/comment-page-1#comment-279959</link>
		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From MyFox St. Louis:

&quot;McCulloch strongly rejected Blunt&#039;s argument.  &#039;What I said was if it is a lie I&#039;ll call somebody on it and say that&#039;s a lie; tell us the truth. That gets morphed  by those with these very sinister motives,&#039; the prosecutor said.  He added, &#039;It&#039;s morphed into &#039;they are trying to intimidate people into not talking.&#039;&quot;

Sounds like they&#039;ve denied it to me, Joel.

The reporter denies they said, they deny they said it.  But I&#039;m sure it&#039;s all a liberal media cover-up to hide the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From MyFox St. Louis:</p>
<p>&#8220;McCulloch strongly rejected Blunt&#8217;s argument.  &#8216;What I said was if it is a lie I&#8217;ll call somebody on it and say that&#8217;s a lie; tell us the truth. That gets morphed  by those with these very sinister motives,&#8217; the prosecutor said.  He added, &#8216;It&#8217;s morphed into &#8216;they are trying to intimidate people into not talking.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like they&#8217;ve denied it to me, Joel.</p>
<p>The reporter denies they said, they deny they said it.  But I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s all a liberal media cover-up to hide the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is why the governore issued a statement about it.&quot;

Of course he issued a statement about it.  I&#039;m sure he was *delighted* to take advantage of what the news story managed to imply, intentionally or not, about the Obama campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is why the governore issued a statement about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course he issued a statement about it.  I&#8217;m sure he was *delighted* to take advantage of what the news story managed to imply, intentionally or not, about the Obama campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From reporter John Mills blog:

&quot;Members of law enforcement never said anyone would be prosecuted, indicted or punished for saying anything, only that they were prepared to tell the public the truth.&quot;

http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_election_092808_truthsquad.bec69e89.html?npc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From reporter John Mills blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;Members of law enforcement never said anyone would be prosecuted, indicted or punished for saying anything, only that they were prepared to tell the public the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_election_092808_truthsquad.bec69e89.html?npc" rel="nofollow">http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_election_092808_truthsquad.bec69e89.html?npc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/4548/comment-page-1#comment-279950</link>
		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the St. Louis Beacon:

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch have denied that they plan criminal prosecutions against those making false statements about Sen. Barack Obama.  Gov. Matt Blunt issued a statement on Saturday likening the prosecutors&#039; involvement in an Obama &quot;truth squad&quot; to the Sedition Acts that made criticism of the president a crime. 
&quot;Nobody on this truth squad had any interest in prosecuting anybody,&quot; Joyce said through a spokesperson. McCulloch refused to comment on Monday.  Last Friday, he told KMOX&#039;s Mark Reardon that neither he nor Joyce had any plan to file criminal charges. &quot;if there is something that is clearly completely false that has no basis in truth, yeah I&#039;ll be happy to step up and say that just isn&#039;t true.&quot;  McCulloch said he would be taking that stand as a private citizen, not a prosecutor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the St. Louis Beacon:</p>
<p>St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch have denied that they plan criminal prosecutions against those making false statements about Sen. Barack Obama.  Gov. Matt Blunt issued a statement on Saturday likening the prosecutors&#8217; involvement in an Obama &#8220;truth squad&#8221; to the Sedition Acts that made criticism of the president a crime.<br />
&#8220;Nobody on this truth squad had any interest in prosecuting anybody,&#8221; Joyce said through a spokesperson. McCulloch refused to comment on Monday.  Last Friday, he told KMOX&#8217;s Mark Reardon that neither he nor Joyce had any plan to file criminal charges. &#8220;if there is something that is clearly completely false that has no basis in truth, yeah I&#8217;ll be happy to step up and say that just isn&#8217;t true.&#8221;  McCulloch said he would be taking that stand as a private citizen, not a prosecutor.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;THAT IS THE QUOTE.&quot;

No, that&#039;s the reporter&#039;s  interpretation of what they may or may not have said.  The prosecutors don&#039;t deny it in the story because they have no idea how the reporter is going to package the story or interpret their remarks before the story airs.  This is the way TV news stories are handled.

&quot;Neither Jennifer Joyce nor Bob McCulloch ( the prosecutors that the reporter was quoting) claim that the reporter misquoted them.&quot;

That&#039;s not so.  I quoted Jennifer Joyce above saying that her remarks had been misinterpreted.  Her spokesperson has said &quot;the prosecutors did not plan to look for ethics violations and, in fact, could not act on ethics violations without a referral from the Missouri Ethics Commission.&quot;  Bob McCulloch has refused to comment.  

&quot;...unless you think the reporter was lying about what they said and these two prosecutors just didnâ€™t catch it...&quot;

If I had a nickel for every time a conservative b*tched about the media, I&#039;d be filthy rich.  Now your telling that we absolutely must trust the reporter.  Go figure.  Have you ever been interviewed?  Do you know how reporters mangle everything you say?  He may be right, he may have lied, or he may have simply made a mess what someone said to him, without understanding the impact.  Since we don&#039;t have a transcript of the interviews, we don&#039;t know.  All I know is the reporter says one thing and the interviewees say something quite different.  

&quot;My sense is that you are not that stupid and that you are either in denial or you are intentionally trying to cloud the issue.&quot;

I&#039;m not stupid.  I watch the news story and hear a reporter say something very controversial that is not backed up by anything the interviewees say on camera.  It&#039;s that simple, Joel.  Neither you nor I have any idea whether Joyce or McCulloch intended to target campaign ethics violators for prosecution, for the simple reason that we have no idea what they told the reporter, other than what is shown on film--which, if it doesn&#039;t contradict what the reporter said, certainly doesn&#039;t confirm it in any way, shape or form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;THAT IS THE QUOTE.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s the reporter&#8217;s  interpretation of what they may or may not have said.  The prosecutors don&#8217;t deny it in the story because they have no idea how the reporter is going to package the story or interpret their remarks before the story airs.  This is the way TV news stories are handled.</p>
<p>&#8220;Neither Jennifer Joyce nor Bob McCulloch ( the prosecutors that the reporter was quoting) claim that the reporter misquoted them.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not so.  I quoted Jennifer Joyce above saying that her remarks had been misinterpreted.  Her spokesperson has said &#8220;the prosecutors did not plan to look for ethics violations and, in fact, could not act on ethics violations without a referral from the Missouri Ethics Commission.&#8221;  Bob McCulloch has refused to comment.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;unless you think the reporter was lying about what they said and these two prosecutors just didnâ€™t catch it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If I had a nickel for every time a conservative b*tched about the media, I&#8217;d be filthy rich.  Now your telling that we absolutely must trust the reporter.  Go figure.  Have you ever been interviewed?  Do you know how reporters mangle everything you say?  He may be right, he may have lied, or he may have simply made a mess what someone said to him, without understanding the impact.  Since we don&#8217;t have a transcript of the interviews, we don&#8217;t know.  All I know is the reporter says one thing and the interviewees say something quite different.  </p>
<p>&#8220;My sense is that you are not that stupid and that you are either in denial or you are intentionally trying to cloud the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not stupid.  I watch the news story and hear a reporter say something very controversial that is not backed up by anything the interviewees say on camera.  It&#8217;s that simple, Joel.  Neither you nor I have any idea whether Joyce or McCulloch intended to target campaign ethics violators for prosecution, for the simple reason that we have no idea what they told the reporter, other than what is shown on film&#8211;which, if it doesn&#8217;t contradict what the reporter said, certainly doesn&#8217;t confirm it in any way, shape or form.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grover,

Are you really that stupid?  In the clip the reporter says that the PROSECUTORS (the reporter is quoting them) &quot;say that they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate violate Missouri ethics laws.â€

THAT IS THE QUOTE.  Neither Jennifer Joyce nor Bob McCulloch ( the prosecutors that the reporter was quoting) claim that the reporter misquoted them.  Consequently, unless you think the reporter was lying about what they said and these two prosecutors just didn&#039;t catch it, then the only alternative left is that they actually said what the reporter said they said. 

I am truly amazed that you have not been able to grasp it.  My sense is that you are not that stupid and that you are either in denial or you are intentionally trying to cloud the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grover,</p>
<p>Are you really that stupid?  In the clip the reporter says that the PROSECUTORS (the reporter is quoting them) &#8220;say that they plan to respond immediately to any ads and statements that might violate violate Missouri ethics laws.â€</p>
<p>THAT IS THE QUOTE.  Neither Jennifer Joyce nor Bob McCulloch ( the prosecutors that the reporter was quoting) claim that the reporter misquoted them.  Consequently, unless you think the reporter was lying about what they said and these two prosecutors just didn&#8217;t catch it, then the only alternative left is that they actually said what the reporter said they said. </p>
<p>I am truly amazed that you have not been able to grasp it.  My sense is that you are not that stupid and that you are either in denial or you are intentionally trying to cloud the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/4548/comment-page-1#comment-279897</link>
		<dc:creator>Grover Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that the video clip now eliminates the ridiculous, unfounded lede about &quot;targeting&quot; people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the video clip now eliminates the ridiculous, unfounded lede about &#8220;targeting&#8221; people.</p>
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